From nobody Wed Sep 10 18:52:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768B41A0276; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:52:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HtnKArpaiffz; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9A51A01AA; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:52:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.2.p6 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140911015217.14982.19406.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:52:17 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/xmpp/01BbW7UJm1M3eZ-hWj-F2n82UI0 Cc: xmpp@ietf.org Subject: [xmpp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-13.txt X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 01:52:18 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Address Format Author : Peter Saint-Andre Filename : draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-13.txt Pages : 29 Date : 2014-09-10 Abstract: This document defines the address format for the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP), including support for code points outside the ASCII range. This document obsoletes RFC 6122. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-13 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-13 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Sep 10 18:57:32 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4391A0275 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:57:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.652, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pjV9LgH0Cf0a for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFB31A01C5 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aither.local (unknown [73.34.202.214]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A72341360; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:59:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <54110188.7070202@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:57:28 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xmpp@ietf.org References: <20140911015217.14982.19406.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20140911015217.14982.19406.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/xmpp/dPIvoKkYaTa8Lq6aBkuDlNSBhQA Subject: Re: [xmpp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-13.txt X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 01:57:31 -0000 Changes to address feedback from Joe and Florian. Please review carefully, because some of the changes are subtle or provisional - more feedback would be very helpful. Thanks! Peter On 9/10/14, 7:52 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Address Format > Author : Peter Saint-Andre > Filename : draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-13.txt > Pages : 29 > Date : 2014-09-10 > > Abstract: > This document defines the address format for the Extensible Messaging > and Presence Protocol (XMPP), including support for code points > outside the ASCII range. This document obsoletes RFC 6122. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-13 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-13 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > xmpp mailing list > xmpp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp > From nobody Wed Sep 10 19:48:49 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B261A046C; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:48:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T8FhOGF9UuVq; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69121A02DB; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:48:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.2.p6 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140911024843.10992.35332.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:48:43 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/xmpp/NpBZ_zcbb4HYMngfa15JT_fnmv8 Cc: xmpp@ietf.org Subject: [xmpp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xmpp-websocket-10.txt X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 02:48:45 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : An XMPP Sub-protocol for WebSocket Authors : Lance Stout Jack Moffitt Eric Cestari Filename : draft-ietf-xmpp-websocket-10.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2014-09-10 Abstract: This document defines a binding for the XMPP protocol over a WebSocket transport layer. A WebSocket binding for XMPP provides higher performance than the current HTTP binding for XMPP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-websocket/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xmpp-websocket-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-xmpp-websocket-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Sep 11 09:04:38 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7B51A6FDD for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:04:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.131 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.131 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.77, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pv8d5nD44k6b for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server209.appriver.com (server209i.appriver.com [8.31.233.124]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (112/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 988671A0410 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:04:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 9/11/2014 12:04:34 PM X-Policy: GLOBAL - vidyo.com X-Policy: GLOBAL - vidyo.com X-Primary: jonathan@vidyo.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note-SnifferID: 0 X-Note: TCH-CT/SI:0-86/SG:2 9/11/2014 12:03:49 PM X-GBUdb-Analysis: 0, 67.231.149.202, Ugly c=0.798526 p=-0.96464 Source White X-Signature-Violations: 0-0-0-5032-c X-Note-419: 15.626 ms. Fail:0 Chk:1336 of 1336 total X-Note: SCH-CT/SI:0-1336/SG:1 9/11/2014 12:04:15 PM X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: ->UNITED STATES->LOCAL->UNITED STATES-> X-Note-Sending-IP: 67.231.149.202 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: mx0a-00198e01.pphosted.com X-Note-Return-Path: jonathan@vidyo.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G342 G343 G344 G345 G349 G350 G461 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: VALID X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [67.231.149.202] (HELO mx0a-00198e01.pphosted.com) by server209.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.2) with ESMTP id 10354213; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:04:34 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (m0073109.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00198e01.pphosted.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with SMTP id s8BG1Pmg029215; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:04:33 -0400 Received: from mail.vidyo.com ([162.209.16.214]) by mx0a-00198e01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 1p7gdwamkr-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=OK); Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:04:33 -0400 Received: from 492132-EXCH1.vidyo.com ([fe80::50:56ff:fe85:4f77]) by 492133-EXCH2.vidyo.com ([fe80::50:56ff:fe85:6b62%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:04:32 -0500 From: Jonathan Lennox To: Peter Saint-Andre Thread-Topic: [xmpp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-13.txt Thread-Index: AQHPzdDSdHMnnq3MUUacjbjEeLeNKJv8bFUA Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:04:32 +0000 Message-ID: <485F18B0-852F-473E-A6D0-940E1B5EBE97@vidyo.com> References: <20140911015217.14982.19406.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <54110188.7070202@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <54110188.7070202@stpeter.im> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [160.79.219.114] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52, 1.0.28, 0.0.0000 definitions=2014-09-11_06:2014-09-11,2014-09-11,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=audit_notspam policy=audit score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1409110131 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/xmpp/M8xktT1yAQpKStck1c5XdR0freg Cc: "xmpp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [xmpp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-13.txt X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:04:37 -0000 On Sep 10, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Changes to address feedback from Joe and Florian. >=20 > Please review carefully, because some of the changes are subtle or provis= ional - more feedback would be very helpful. I think the separation of preparation, enforcement, and comparison is very = helpful, but I don=92t think the description of enforcement is very clear y= et =97 it seems to mix together normalization and validity checking, withou= t a clear discussion of which rules are which. For example: as far as I can tell, the intention from all discussions is th= at StPeter@example.com is a valid JID, which a server should normalize and = process as stpeter@example.com, but =93StPeter"@example.com is not, and sho= uld be rejected with . But I don=92t see how you can deduc= e this from the document=92s current description of =93Enforcement=94 =97 b= oth the case mapping and the list of invalid characters are specified as = =93MUST=94 requirements. The =93Preparation=94 stage also doesn=92t seem to require that JIDs that a= re transmitted actually be considered valid by the enforcement stage, which= seems like a recipe for interop failure. 6122=92s language was "A localpart MUST be formatted such that the Nodeprep= profile of [STRINGPREP] can be applied without failing=94 (and similarly f= or the other JID parts). Can language something like this (mutis mutandis = for Precis rather than Stringprep) be used, once Enforcement is clear about= what is or isn=92t considered failure?= From nobody Mon Sep 22 09:01:53 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D011A1A92; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:01:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t1Xrq9J8FEDG; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB901A1AC3; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140922160129.1686.84938.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:01:29 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/xmpp/z-J-jlBEBIwgliENmYDD16BmQmw Cc: xmpp chair , xmpp mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [xmpp] Protocol Action: 'An XMPP Sub-protocol for WebSocket' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-xmpp-websocket-10.txt) X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 16:01:40 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'An XMPP Sub-protocol for WebSocket' (draft-ietf-xmpp-websocket-10.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Richard Barnes and Alissa Cooper. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-websocket/ Technical Summary: This document defines a binding for the XMPP protocol over a WebSocket transport layer. A WebSocket binding for XMPP provides higher performance than BOSH, the current HTTP binding for XMPP (which uses HTTP long polling). Working Group Summary: Work on a WebSocket binding for XMPP began in 2010 with the first version of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket and related code in several XMPP projects. Since then, implementation and deployment experience has led to several changes, most notably: a. An explicit framing mechanism for opening and closing XMPP steams over the WebSocket binding using complete XML elements, instead of the opening and closing and tags as in the TCP binding specified in RFC 6120. b. An HTTP-based discovery mechanism using Web Host Metadata (RFC 6145) and Web Linking (RFC 5988) with a link relation type of "urn:xmpp:alt-connections:websocket" consistent with the Alternative XMPP Connection Methods specification (XEP-0156) produced by the XMPP Standards Foundation. The framing mechanism has been a matter, not exactly of controversy, but at least of discussion. The approach settled on in version -01 of this document (using complete XML elements instead of opening and closing tags) gained favor among implementers because it is simpler to code for the target audience of web developers. Once agreement was reached on this approach, almost all of the server and client implementations were quickly updated to follow draft-ietf-xmpp-websocket-01. (There are at least 6 implementations of this specification.) Although the document has not generated a great deal of traffic on the XMPP WG mailing list, discussion at IETF 88 (Vancouver) and afterward among implementers at XMPP Summit 15 (Brussels) was robust, and further reviews and revisions occurred soon after IETF 89 (London). Version 07 of the document incorporates all of the feedback receieved during those discussions. Personnel: Who is the Document Shepherd? Peter Saint-Andre Who is the Responsible Area Director? Richard Barnes.