From yang-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 8 06:19:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C752E28E3F8; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 06:19:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.477 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.477 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OrQqjL2rZUmz; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 06:19:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE38729317C; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 05:48:52 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5025428D378 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 05:48:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9GnD3G6KaaOa for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 05:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp123.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp123.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.96]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7322B28E579 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:56:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 72428 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2008 23:55:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.10?) (andybierman@att.net@67.127.164.205 with plain) by smtp123.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2008 23:55:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: MvbOs5QVM1n_.u0a1iC2C9Dl1Tmp5YjpbAUXNXkEwsE_XvFjjbuJsPBTEXs_a7zqt_xCd2ScpbFXmODr5drBFLlz X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47D1D605.3060903@andybierman.com> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:55:49 -0800 From: Andy Bierman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yang , NETCONF Goes On Subject: [YANG] yangto -- a free YANG translator X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I have written a free YANG compiler and translator in C. I am making 2 binaries available now (Mac & Fedora), with online version and more platforms on the way.. XSD translation is currently supported, with HTML, SQL, and other translation formats available soon. Several YANG modules (including some MIBs converted by smidump) are included in the file modules.tar.gz. http://www.yang-central.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/YangTools Andy _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 8 07:27:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2985528CDC8; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:27:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.045, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t1pSZWMTiqhU; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C6F28D631; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:13:25 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEE428D62E for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:13:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yuynWPGixWUK for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp124.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp124.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.97]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D7A63A78FF for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 06:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 62019 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2008 14:23:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.10?) (andybierman@att.net@67.127.164.205 with plain) by smtp124.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2008 14:23:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: gYDiC6UVM1mjCdkKYc7l57NzUIBOBhOqEqynBRBbFPFdtyBnfeokh4XSTT1KgFoVcG3cGgkRka3QoP0A7PpopUQK X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47D2A17D.5060003@andybierman.com> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:23:57 -0800 From: Andy Bierman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yang Subject: [YANG] yangto -- a free YANG translator (resend 2) X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I have written a free YANG compiler and translator in C. I am making 2 binaries available now (Mac & Fedora), with online version and more platforms on the way.. XSD translation is currently supported, with HTML, SQL, and other translation formats available soon. Several YANG modules (including some MIBs converted by smidump) are included in the file modules.tar.gz. http://www.yang-central.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/YangTools Andy _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 8 07:29:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B510628C50E; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:29:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.482 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.482 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.045, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t-j8hBq7adzT; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E323A70BA; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:22:00 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD82C28CA11 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:21:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G5CLa1xBB6o8 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.88]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3846728CB44 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 06:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23224 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2008 09:12:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.10?) (andybierman@att.net@67.127.164.205 with plain) by smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2008 09:12:51 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: MX1UWGEVM1lfKPivWLj4HSasrI.H3f3RZWNMrqNKHKHFcdKAHwDx7s84xLDKrQ8YkRaJ4SmJlqVepUA8YhvEJV4EnEo- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47D25893.5040901@andybierman.com> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:12:51 -0800 From: Andy Bierman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yang , NETCONF Goes On Subject: [YANG] yangto -- a free YANG translator (resend after 9 hours) X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I have written a free YANG compiler and translator in C. I am making 2 binaries available now (Mac & Fedora), with online version and more platforms on the way.. XSD translation is currently supported, with HTML, SQL, and other translation formats available soon. Several YANG modules (including some MIBs converted by smidump) are included in the file modules.tar.gz. http://www.yang-central.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/YangTools Andy _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 8 07:48:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918A73A68BE; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:48:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.49 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.49 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.053, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8gmcOzVXYBK9; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:48:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB20D3A68A8; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:48:47 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E133A6859 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:48:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vpyr0N9XCgoz for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp119.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp119.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.92]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id ED3AA3A6843 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:48:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 97078 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2008 15:46:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (andybierman@att.net@67.127.164.205 with plain) by smtp119.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2008 15:46:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: RCgPuKIVM1kNSP4LvipUgSszHWrHphW0jjVty9Iaplr4KlhQ4FX2GwzhTG8U2.8jG2ueQbAn9_Vj8FcX8bv7DZ9BE8nSadGb0EA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47D2B4CD.3020000@andybierman.com> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:46:21 -0800 From: Andy Bierman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yang , NETCONF Goes On References: <47D25893.5040901@andybierman.com> In-Reply-To: <47D25893.5040901@andybierman.com> Subject: Re: [YANG] [NGO] yangto -- a free YANG translator (resend after 9 hours) X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Andy Bierman wrote: > Hi, > sorry about the resends (there is one more to yang :-( The ietf.org mailer is about 17 hours behind on several lists. Andy > I have written a free YANG compiler and translator in C. > I am making 2 binaries available now (Mac & Fedora), > with online version and more platforms on the way.. > > XSD translation is currently supported, with HTML, SQL, > and other translation formats available soon. Several YANG modules > (including some MIBs converted by smidump) are included > in the file modules.tar.gz. > > http://www.yang-central.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/YangTools > > > Andy > > > > _______________________________________________ > NGO mailing list > NGO@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ngo > > > _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 8 13:29:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBE73A6AC2; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:29:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.679 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.679 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.242, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T2Z+j9we-wzi; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D1B3A6BB7; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:29:26 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BC93A6BB7 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:29:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wz+wmN47d46r for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.96]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FAEA3A6AC2 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23546 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2008 21:27:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (andybierman@att.net@67.127.164.205 with plain) by smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2008 21:26:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: OZI9ZlEVM1lx7JCth6YdLYUv6VB8r.pqRSsbrejL5a3eU_O1sDmhMX4v6P0VacMhBw4vLCxh3OeI1uCnITsbdcPBca42pu8_txUesgibXf5F35w9SWK0Qg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47D304A0.9050704@andybierman.com> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:26:56 -0800 From: Andy Bierman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yang Subject: [YANG] yangdiff X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I'm working on a program that compares 2 versions of the same YANG [sub]module, ignoring location, clause order, etc. I want to check for illegal differences between 2 modules, but of course, that section is still TBD. MUST stay the same from initial version on: - [sub]module name - namespace [?] - prefix [?] - object name (where object == rpc, notif, top-level data) - what else? SHOULD stay the same: - ?? MAY change at any time: - ?? I hope we can work out some change control details this week. These are not just CLRs. A compliant manager needs to know what API changes and non-changes should be expected from a compliant agent, for any YANG module. Major details: - what changes need to force a namespace change, or is that even allowed? - which SMI change control rules should be applied? - does version control creep into the import clause syntax, and if so, what are those details? - YANG module schema advertisement details - capability-based conformance details I suggest we use f2f time during the many non-NM meeting slots, and try to figure out some version control and capability-based conformance control details. Andy _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Sun Mar 9 16:29:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADD228C295; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:29:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.843 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.843 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.406, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YM78tCuB3ogN; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D443A68CA; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:29:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE713A6837; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:29:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 88VYeDDNVghi; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (mailgw3.ericsson.se [193.180.251.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D209B3A67FA; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id CCA8D2071F; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:27:02 +0100 (CET) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3c-ab095bb00000193b-ac-47d472464885 Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.122]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 8BBC82044F; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:27:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.177]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:27:01 +0100 Received: from [153.88.21.232] ([153.88.21.232]) by esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:27:00 +0100 From: David Partain Organization: Ericsson AB To: yang@ietf.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:27:09 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <47B2F858.2080309@andybierman.com> <47B40044.2000109@ericsson.com> <200802261702.53133.david.partain@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <200802261702.53133.david.partain@ericsson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803100027.10297.david.partain@ericsson.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2008 23:27:01.0319 (UTC) FILETIME=[1394BD70:01C8823D] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: ngo@ietf.org Subject: [YANG] YANG meeting tomorrow (Monday) at 8 PM X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Greetings, There will be a YANG meeting tomorrow (Monday) evening from 8 to 10 PM in room 414. Based upon responses to my question about what people would like the meeting to cover, it will largely be a YANG tutorial, but please feel free to bring whatever YANG-related questions you may have to the meeting as well. Cheers, David _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 10 14:07:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032EE28C4D5; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:07:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.906 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.906 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.469, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MJaAIAsoidVd; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2843F3A6E0C; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:06:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C027A28C4A6; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:06:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OygV8nAJ2nIB; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (mailgw3.ericsson.se [193.180.251.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8270128C3D3; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 0F67D20F5E; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:00:18 +0100 (CET) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3c-af89ebb00000193b-b8-47d5a161846e Received: from esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.123]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id ED11420F5B; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:00:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.172]) by esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:00:17 +0100 Received: from [153.88.21.146] ([153.88.21.146]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:00:15 +0100 From: David Partain Organization: Ericsson AB To: yang@ietf.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:00:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <47B2F858.2080309@andybierman.com> <200802261702.53133.david.partain@ericsson.com> <200803100027.10297.david.partain@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <200803100027.10297.david.partain@ericsson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803102200.21454.david.partain@ericsson.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2008 21:00:16.0382 (UTC) FILETIME=[BDD7B9E0:01C882F1] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: ngo@ietf.org Subject: Re: [YANG] YANG meeting tomorrow (Monday) at 8 PM X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org On Monday 10 March 2008 00.27.09 David Partain wrote: > Greetings, > > There will be a YANG meeting tomorrow (Monday) evening from 8 to 10 PM in > room 414. Based upon responses to my question about what people would like > the meeting to cover, it will largely be a YANG tutorial, but please feel > free to bring whatever YANG-related questions you may have to the meeting > as well. Hi, Since this time competes with dinner, we'll see that there is pizza available at the YANG tutorial. Cheers, David _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Mon Mar 10 21:25:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1D828C1BF; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:25:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.562, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DjFgeMX9PDMY; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B923A6ABF; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:25:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BC03A6A72 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:25:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mo5IyxD7Qs6S for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (mailgw4.ericsson.se [193.180.251.62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EE23A6B83 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 8644120252 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:22:56 +0100 (CET) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-ae999bb000004ec0-d6-47d609204046 Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.121]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 6FDEB20082 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:22:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.170]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:22:56 +0100 Received: from [153.88.21.146] ([153.88.21.146]) by esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:22:54 +0100 From: David Partain Organization: Ericsson AB To: yang@ietf.org Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:23:07 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803110523.08031.david.partain@ericsson.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2008 04:22:55.0684 (UTC) FILETIME=[946B9840:01C8832F] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [YANG] Tutorial slides now on yang-central.org X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Hi, For those interested, the slides used in the YANG tutorial this evening are available at http://www.yang-central.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/YangTutorials Feedback welcome! Cheers, David _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 06:16:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE3028C713; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:16:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.518 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.518 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.081, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WtjjCPHFLwbw; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB86528C6B6; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:16:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B0528C6B6 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:16:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R0c1KI1Zjc9E for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.240]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A5428C6C2 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 4so2215055hsl.5 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:14:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer:sender; bh=fU8JYwMdNbxHG3CaVNy/GAvDoev41zCy1aj/b9DTcS8=; b=Ryaw431xGNssF1rxFjOSHXDTJ0gBg5F2nZcaMY+zxXTLIgn6rTJ/lGH+9DbkY5hiMu7mdGgYB4/x3q5p4k1l7+AAXNrMEnSwoLpyXKcDQCExzMT/l4jSLeufyotWnokXt2bb9ogANK7PQhwwPF1xPnj8WTsK8QtSGXPOnEbvnJs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer:sender; b=fgpMuWkrGufg7+n9ocTIWfm71mCD8nhp3qjsei+KOZR3ai71qINYkgecS0Dd493M2h3NElOuf4g3Dfax7MzARe14i5k4kA3R6ZcK2LidKMwbQL3+RP43h7Qv0EqVpzObYmRuxOqgEjcJWpcqpZnixIUmx8cw4bKm5MmHaIz4ykQ= Received: by 10.100.251.5 with SMTP id y5mr16066081anh.118.1205327649957; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?130.129.84.217? ( [130.129.84.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c14sm5329567ana.21.2008.03.12.06.14.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <76825988-7F4A-448F-B750-8D596D049111@jadickinson.co.uk> From: John Dickinson To: yang Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-18--612818544 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:14:08 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Subject: [YANG] YANG models for nameserver control X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org --Apple-Mail-18--612818544 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, We are investigating the idea of controlling DNS servers via a common protocol. Our approach has three basic ideas: a) To use netconf as a basis for the protocol, so simplifying the protocol definition. b) Recognising that nameservers have different (overlapping) functionality and, rather than define one encompassing protocol, define the protocol as a set of "feature groups". Name servers only implement those feature groups that they need. (This obviously maps to netconf capabilites.) c) To try to avoid the need for extensive modifications to existing nameserver implementations, so increasing the likelihood of uptake. The approach we are taking is to convert the nameserver configuration file to XML, using the incoming netconf message as the basis of an XML transform on the configuration data, and converting the modified XML back to configuration file format. By defining a common model for nameserver configuration data and using different transforms, we can get the same netconf message to control different nameserver implementations. We have used YANG for our modelling. Attached is a model for NSD and BIND nameservers and a model for a generic nameserver management interface. These are very early models that we are just playing with. They are a long way from being complete or correct. But we do hope they are a useful starting point. We have found YANG to be extremely useful for this kind of modeling. It is easy to get up to speed with and feels very close to the actual text based configuration formats used by nameservers. Thanks John --- John Dickinson --Apple-Mail-18--612818544 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=bind.yang Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name="bind.yang" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit module bind { namespace "http://nominet.org.uk/namespaces/bind"; prefix bind; import yang-types { prefix yang; } import inet-types { prefix inet; } import ieee-types { prefix ieee; } organization "Nominet UK"; description "Partial data model for BIND."; container bind { description "configuration for a BIND nameserver."; grouping address-match-list { list address-match-list-element { leaf negate { type boolean; } choice element-type { case a { leaf ip-address { type inet:ip-prefix; } } case b { leaf key-id { type string; } } case c { leaf acl-name { type string; } } } } } container options { leaf directory { type string; } leaf recursion { type enumeration { enum yes; enum no; } } /* leaf notify { type enumeration { enum yes; enum no; enum explicit; enum master-only; } } container listen-on { uses address-match-list; } container allow-query-cache { uses address-match-list; } container allow-transfer { uses address-match-list; } */ } list zone { key "name"; leaf name { type string; } leaf type { type enumeration { enum master; enum slave; enum stub; enum forward; enum hint; enum delegation-only; } } leaf file { type string; } } } } --Apple-Mail-18--612818544 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=nscp.yang Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name="nscp.yang" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit module nsd { namespace "http://nominet.org.uk/namespaces/nscp"; prefix nscp; import yang-types { prefix yang; } import inet-types { prefix inet; } import ieee-types { prefix ieee; } organization "Nominet UK"; description "Partial data model for NSCP."; container nscp { description "configuration and operational parameters for a NSCP server."; container server { leaf directory { type string; } leaf recursion { type string; } container acl { list ace { key "acl-name"; leaf acl-name { type string; } } } container panorama { list view { key "view-name"; leaf view-name { type string; } list zone { key "zone-name"; leaf zone-name { type string; } leaf type { type enumeration { enum slave; } } leaf filename { type string; } } } } container peergroup { list peers { key "peer-name"; leaf peer-name { type string; } } } } } } --Apple-Mail-18--612818544 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=nsd.yang Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name="nsd.yang" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit module nsd { namespace "http://nominet.org.uk/namespaces/nsd"; prefix nsd; import yang-types { prefix yang; } import inet-types { prefix inet; } import ieee-types { prefix ieee; } organization "Nominet UK"; description "Partial data model for NSD."; container nsd { description "configuration and operational parameters for a NSD server."; container server { leaf-list ip-address { type inet:ip-address; } leaf zonesdir { type string; } } list zone { key "name"; leaf name { type string; } leaf zonefile { type string; } } } } --Apple-Mail-18--612818544 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang --Apple-Mail-18--612818544-- From yang-bounces@ietf.org Wed Mar 12 20:52:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEEF3A6CC3; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:52:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.82 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.82 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.383, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RtmgIqbaHkIk; 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Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:48:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.171]) by esealmw129.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:48:49 +0100 Received: from [153.88.21.202] ([153.88.21.202]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:48:47 +0100 From: David Partain Organization: Ericsson AB To: yang@ietf.org, ngo@ietf.org Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:49:10 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803130449.10797.david.partain@ericsson.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2008 03:48:48.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[24D71560:01C884BD] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [YANG] Comparison of DHCP and Partial Locking Solutions X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Greetings, After today's discussions, I thought it might be useful to see some side-by-side comparisons of solutions to specific problems. I therefore took (verbatim) the solutions that have been published for the DHCP model and for the partial locking model and put them at http://www.yang-central.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ComparingYang I hope this will help people compare the various solutions. I've made no attempt to verify that they are semantically equivalent but have simply put out what everyone has published. Cheers, David _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Thu Mar 27 05:53:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F327B3A6B79; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:53:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.387 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.387 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8W-v5fdggdsZ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFA33A6A64; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:53:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389E93A67E2 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:53:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FPj1Kk-r0lpz for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office2.cesnet.cz (office2.cesnet.cz [195.113.144.244]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B153A69EA for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.29.2.201] (asus-gx.lhotka.cesnet.cz [195.113.161.161]) by office2.cesnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D58D800DB for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:50:28 +0100 (CET) From: Ladislav Lhotka To: yang Organization: CESNET Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:50:25 +0100 Message-Id: <1206622225.19487.80.camel@missotis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Subject: [YANG] YIN schema X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I wrote RELAX NG schema for YIN and uploaded it to yang-central (Tools section). It is a pretty much straightforward translation of the ABNF syntax and the rules in App. B of the draft. Actually, this grammar is more precise than the ABNF - it specifies whether the order of subelements is fixed or arbitrary. I was able to validate the DHCP example in Emacs/nXML. The nXML mode with its autocompletion may well be the easiest way for writing YANG models. :-) Please let me know if you find any problems. I found few myself - I will post them in a special mail to this list. Cheers, Lada -- Ladislav Lhotka, CESNET PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 28 03:58:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8312E3A6A63; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:58:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -98.59 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.59 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.012, BAYES_20=-0.74, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5kZaRND-AKxc; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFD03A687B; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:58:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEEE3A687B for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:58:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WZHY8e6HaYcF for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office2.cesnet.cz (office2.cesnet.cz [195.113.144.244]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3473A6813 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.29.2.201] (asus-gx.lhotka.cesnet.cz [195.113.161.161]) by office2.cesnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F70D80098 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:58:19 +0100 (CET) From: Ladislav Lhotka To: yang Organization: CESNET Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:58:18 +0100 Message-Id: <1206701898.25594.48.camel@missotis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Subject: [YANG] YANG syntax X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Hi, here are my comments and questions on YANG syntax and its description in the -02 draft: - An unquoted + is allowed as a string parameter. I think this is too fragile as + can appear in numbers and also as a concatenation operator. I suggest to require isolated + to be quoted. - The draft should probably clearly specify that recursive containment is not allowed. - Can a submodule use definitions from its parent module - automatically or via "include"? - Production rules for all statements except module and submodule are labelled "-stmt". For the sake of consistency, the rules for module and submodule should be renamed to module-stmt and submodule-stmt. - Is it necessary to keep meta-stmts and submodule-meta-stmts distinct? Their productions are identical. - float-value requires a sign ("+/"-") in the exponent, pyang allows floats like 6.022E23. Maybe the sign should be made optional? - The "boolean" type in W3C and RELAX NG datatype libraries allow as values either true/false or 1/0. Would it be a problem to allow this in YANG, too? - I don't really understand the keyref statement and its path expression. An example would be helpful. - bit-stmt - all substatements are optional but braces are required. - presence keyword is missing in Table 30 in App. B. - unique-arg should have "1*SP" instead of "1*sp" - descendant-schema-nodeid should be an alternative? descendant-schema-nodeid = node-identifier / absolute-schema-nodeid - What is the role of unknown-statement in stmtsep and stmtend? Lada -- Ladislav Lhotka, CESNET PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 28 06:54:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C996528C999; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:54:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.466 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.466 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.029, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0F7V+Oqir8Xn; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58EB3A6D38; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:53:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C304F28C929 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:53:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AJUxcQMwmHNn for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tail-f.com (unknown [213.180.94.162]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114FD28C93F for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (138.162.241.83.in-addr.dgcsystems.net [83.241.162.138]) by mail.tail-f.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD831B80C9; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:50:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:53:04 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20080328.145304.181904621.mbj@tail-f.com> To: lhotka@cesnet.cz From: Martin Bjorklund In-Reply-To: <1206701898.25594.48.camel@missotis> References: <1206701898.25594.48.camel@missotis> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.1.51 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: yang@ietf.org Subject: Re: [YANG] YANG syntax X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Hi, Thank's for the feedback! Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Hi, > > here are my comments and questions on YANG syntax and its description in > the -02 draft: > > - An unquoted + is allowed as a string parameter. I think this is too > fragile as + can appear in numbers and also as a concatenation operator. > I suggest to require isolated + to be quoted. It's not only isolated + signs, but also if the string itself includes a + sign: "1 + 2" // ok 1 + 2 // nok The simplest way would be to always require a + within a string to be quoted: If a string contains any whitespace characters, a semicolon (";"), a plus sign ("+"), curly braces ("{ }"), or comment sequences ("//", "/*", or "*/"), then it MUST be enclosed within double or single quotes. But that means that: default +1; // nok default "+1"; // ok This would mean that a + sign either in isolation or within a string must be quoted. I think I prefer the simple rule. Any comments? > - The draft should probably clearly specify that recursive containment > is not allowed. Ok. I'll try to write some text. > - Can a submodule use definitions from its parent module - automatically > or via "include"? No. You can never include a module (just submodules). > - Production rules for all statements except module and submodule are > labelled "-stmt". For the sake of consistency, the rules for > module and submodule should be renamed to module-stmt and > submodule-stmt. Fixed. > - Is it necessary to keep meta-stmts and submodule-meta-stmts distinct? > Their productions are identical. No reason. Fixed. > - float-value requires a sign ("+/"-") in the exponent, pyang allows > floats like 6.022E23. Maybe the sign should be made optional? Yes I think so. This is supported by the standard strdtoX functions. Any comments? > - The "boolean" type in W3C and RELAX NG datatype libraries allow as > values either true/false or 1/0. Would it be a problem to allow this in > YANG, too? I'll pass on this and see if Juergen will comment. > - I don't really understand the keyref statement and its path > expression. An example would be helpful. Do you need more than what's in 8.8.4? > - bit-stmt - all substatements are optional but braces are required. Fixed. > - presence keyword is missing in Table 30 in App. B. Fixed. > - unique-arg should have "1*SP" instead of "1*sp" Yes, but it is actually valid ABNF (by accident!) since rule names are case insensitive. But I think it should be "sep" instead of "1*sp". That also allows newlines, just like key-arg. Alternatively, both key-arg and unique-arg should use "1*SP", and if you want newlines you can use string concatenation. > - descendant-schema-nodeid should be an alternative? > descendant-schema-nodeid > = node-identifier / > absolute-schema-nodeid No, if it is absolute it is not descendant. descendant-schema-nodeid means that it is a relative w/o leading dots, i.e. it reference soemthing below the current point. > - What is the role of unknown-statement in stmtsep and stmtend? It covers extension statements. The grammar must allow e.g.: description "bla bla" { my-ext:type "cli-help"; } /martin _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 28 07:17:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8605128C30B; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:17:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.162, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id btdygu5XdSae; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F493A6D38; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:17:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40863A6B2F for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:17:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fzIVE4MIcDSE for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D17928C304 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (demetrius.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DA48C868; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:17:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24564-06; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:17:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CAF8C880; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:17:07 +0100 (CET) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 50531520C4D; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:17:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:17:06 +0100 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: Martin Bjorklund Message-ID: <20080328141706.GB9731@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: Martin Bjorklund , lhotka@cesnet.cz, yang@ietf.org References: <1206701898.25594.48.camel@missotis> <20080328.145304.181904621.mbj@tail-f.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080328.145304.181904621.mbj@tail-f.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.3 (20050822) at jacobs-university.de Cc: yang@ietf.org, lhotka@cesnet.cz Subject: Re: [YANG] YANG syntax X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 02:53:04PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > - The "boolean" type in W3C and RELAX NG datatype libraries allow as > > values either true/false or 1/0. Would it be a problem to allow this in > > YANG, too? > > I'll pass on this and see if Juergen will comment. Allowing multiple representations for a given value of a type adds quite some complexity since we then have to say what is the canonical representation for comparisons and we have to explicit whether or when implementation have to remember which representation was used. So I am a big fan of one representation per value and since a a boolean type has just two values, the boolean YANG type only has "true" and "false". /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 28 07:33:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D18F3A6D5F; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:33:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.894 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.894 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.457, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UgMfRkb3Rj1n; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B53C28C224; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:33:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B42728C2A4 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:33:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XBNrxNQ9MQyv for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp124.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp124.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.97]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 25AC53A6CDB for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31332 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2008 14:33:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (andybierman@att.net@67.126.243.42 with plain) by smtp124.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2008 14:33:16 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cRRoRNIVM1mUNXPEzxjp4s3GY2bvWBKV.JK4W9y_j8QEkbZ2uoIOdRGZ_SDlUru2_.rRYorXOcgUyZYOQGxgTUcb X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47ED01AC.1010308@andybierman.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:33:16 -0700 From: Andy Bierman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Bjorklund References: <1206701898.25594.48.camel@missotis> <20080328.145304.181904621.mbj@tail-f.com> In-Reply-To: <20080328.145304.181904621.mbj@tail-f.com> Cc: yang@ietf.org, lhotka@cesnet.cz Subject: Re: [YANG] YANG syntax X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > Thank's for the feedback! > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> Hi, >> >> here are my comments and questions on YANG syntax and its description in >> the -02 draft: >> >> - An unquoted + is allowed as a string parameter. I think this is too >> fragile as + can appear in numbers and also as a concatenation operator. >> I suggest to require isolated + to be quoted. > > It's not only isolated + signs, but also if the string itself includes > a + sign: > > "1 + 2" // ok > 1 + 2 // nok > > The simplest way would be to always require a + within a string to be quoted: > > If a string contains any whitespace characters, a semicolon (";"), a > plus sign ("+"), curly braces ("{ }"), or comment sequences ("//", > "/*", or "*/"), then it MUST be enclosed within double or single > quotes. > > But that means that: > > default +1; // nok > default "+1"; // ok > > This would mean that a + sign either in isolation or within a string > must be quoted. > > I think I prefer the simple rule. Any comments? I prefer to leave the string encoding rules the way they are. The differentiator is whether the string contains whitespace, curly braces, or a start of comment. A no-whitespace string is OK in YANG, which is a pain to parse, but easier on the user. Equivalent: default 1+3; // ok default "1+3"; // ok default "1+" + "3"; //ok Legal: config "fa" + "lse"; //ok range min..max; // ok type min..max; // ok but now an ID not 3 tokens The '+' operator needs to be unquoted and also needs to be isolated (in whitespace), to be a concat operator, not a plus sign. Andy > >> - The draft should probably clearly specify that recursive containment >> is not allowed. > > Ok. I'll try to write some text. > >> - Can a submodule use definitions from its parent module - automatically >> or via "include"? > > No. You can never include a module (just submodules). > > >> - Production rules for all statements except module and submodule are >> labelled "-stmt". For the sake of consistency, the rules for >> module and submodule should be renamed to module-stmt and >> submodule-stmt. > > Fixed. > > >> - Is it necessary to keep meta-stmts and submodule-meta-stmts distinct? >> Their productions are identical. > > No reason. Fixed. > >> - float-value requires a sign ("+/"-") in the exponent, pyang allows >> floats like 6.022E23. Maybe the sign should be made optional? > > Yes I think so. This is supported by the standard strdtoX functions. > Any comments? > >> - The "boolean" type in W3C and RELAX NG datatype libraries allow as >> values either true/false or 1/0. Would it be a problem to allow this in >> YANG, too? > > I'll pass on this and see if Juergen will comment. > >> - I don't really understand the keyref statement and its path >> expression. An example would be helpful. > > Do you need more than what's in 8.8.4? > >> - bit-stmt - all substatements are optional but braces are required. > > Fixed. > >> - presence keyword is missing in Table 30 in App. B. > > Fixed. > >> - unique-arg should have "1*SP" instead of "1*sp" > > Yes, but it is actually valid ABNF (by accident!) since rule names are > case insensitive. > > But I think it should be "sep" instead of "1*sp". That also > allows newlines, just like key-arg. Alternatively, both key-arg and > unique-arg should use "1*SP", and if you want newlines you can use > string concatenation. > > >> - descendant-schema-nodeid should be an alternative? >> descendant-schema-nodeid >> = node-identifier / >> absolute-schema-nodeid > > No, if it is absolute it is not descendant. descendant-schema-nodeid > means that it is a relative w/o leading dots, i.e. it reference > soemthing below the current point. > >> - What is the role of unknown-statement in stmtsep and stmtend? > > It covers extension statements. The grammar must allow e.g.: > > description "bla bla" { > my-ext:type "cli-help"; > } > > > /martin > _______________________________________________ > YANG mailing list > YANG@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang > > > _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 28 07:45:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9FE28C8EA; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:45:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.704 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.704 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.734, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4VPhpU-1HLVj; 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(andybierman@att.net@67.127.96.116 with plain) by smtp123.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2008 15:41:23 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ZjRbDk0VM1kmw4XzDWH6u5h62xFwxZC0g7KL1GWBZZYywCq_ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47ED11A4.3080903@andybierman.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:41:24 -0700 From: Andy Bierman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Bjorklund References: <1206701898.25594.48.camel@missotis> <20080328.145304.181904621.mbj@tail-f.com> In-Reply-To: <20080328.145304.181904621.mbj@tail-f.com> Cc: yang@ietf.org, lhotka@cesnet.cz Subject: Re: [YANG] YANG syntax X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > >.... >> - Can a submodule use definitions from its parent module - automatically >> or via "include"? > > No. You can never include a module (just submodules). > Should there be some new text explaining some submodule details more clearly: - submodules must be self-contained -- if a foreign symbol is encountered (e.g., type or grouping name) then it must be found through the import or include mechanisms. - since a sub-module can never import or include its parent(s), it cannot use any definitions from those files. - the one exception to this rule is the module prefix, which may optionally be used within its submodules. (This means a compiler parsing a sub-module must also partially parse the top module, via the belongs-to clause, to get the module prefix). - all submodule definitions are conceptually at the 'top' level, even if they are located in deeply nested submodules. The submodule structure may be hierarchical, but the exported definitions are associated only with the module, not the submodule. The 'export tree' is the conceptual union of the module and all submodules. Andy _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Fri Mar 28 11:51:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0997328C3EF; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:51:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.605 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.605 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.168, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jIaL+CpxecBo; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D223A6F2F; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:51:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D973A6F2F for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:51:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oO6hNmLdUbcZ for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.209]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id ACCC528C321 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 72145 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2008 18:51:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (andybierman@att.net@67.127.96.116 with plain) by smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2008 18:51:28 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: BhOevXcVM1mK0GwF3JopCcHJ39_UTcwRDsRyeRLsWC_n2dmD X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <47ED3E32.4000702@andybierman.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:51:30 -0700 From: Andy Bierman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: yang Subject: [YANG] uses-stmt refinements X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org Hi, One topic we may want to consider further is refinements. It seems some clauses are excluded because they would break 'the contract' implied by the grouping (e.g., type-stmt). Yet some things are allowed which do seem to break the contract, (e.g., config-stmt), and some things are not allowed, which do not seem to break the contract (e.g., add a key to a list that doesn't have one). What is the real nature of the grouping? We seem to be have 2 perceptions, neither one actually correct: 1) grouping is like C #define 2) grouping is like an OO class We need to clarify the grouping refinements, and where the actual contract is embodied (i.e., in the grouping, in the uses, or both). If a grouping implies no contract at all (ala C #define) then many of the corner-case refinements are not problems at all, since the uses-stmt determines the real contract. If a grouping implies some sort of contract (ala class), then things are more complicated to define, and many corner-cases will need to be addressed. Andy _______________________________________________ YANG mailing list YANG@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang From yang-bounces@ietf.org Sat Mar 29 01:20:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-yang-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041323A6E17; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:20:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.043 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.043 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.394, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vYHD+Z63sp6M; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FB63A695E; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:20:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC283A6BA4 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:20:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6mv5z0V26VyE for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office2.cesnet.cz (office2.cesnet.cz [195.113.144.244]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EAFB3A67D8 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.29.2.201] (asus-gx.lhotka.cesnet.cz [195.113.161.161]) by office2.cesnet.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A265D800BD for ; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:20:38 +0100 (CET) From: Ladislav Lhotka To: yang@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20080328.145304.181904621.mbj@tail-f.com> References: <1206701898.25594.48.camel@missotis> <20080328.145304.181904621.mbj@tail-f.com> Organization: CESNET Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:20:38 +0100 Message-Id: <1206778838.5665.28.camel@missotis> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Subject: Re: [YANG] YANG syntax X-BeenThere: yang@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: YANG modeling Language for NETCONF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Sender: yang-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: yang-bounces@ietf.org TWFydGluIEJqb3JrbHVuZCBww63FoWUgdiBQw6EgMjguIDAzLiAyMDA4IHYgMTQ6NTMgKzAxMDA6 Cj4gICAgZGVmYXVsdCArMTsgICAgLy8gbm9rCj4gICAgZGVmYXVsdCAiKzEiOyAgLy8gb2sKClRo YXQncyBhY3R1YWxseSBhbm90aGVyIHRoaW5nIEkgd2FudGVkIHRvIG1lbnRpb246IGlmIEkgcmVh ZCB0aGUgZ3JhbW1hcgpjb3JyZWN0bHksICsxIGlzIG5vdCBhIHZhbGlkIG51bWJlciAtIHRoZSBw bHVzIHNpZ24gaXMgbm90IGFsbG93ZWQuIEkKdGhpbmsgaXQgc2hvdWxkIGJlLgoKPiAKPiAKPiAK PiA+IC0gSSBkb24ndCByZWFsbHkgdW5kZXJzdGFuZCB0aGUga2V5cmVmIHN0YXRlbWVudCBhbmQg aXRzIHBhdGgKPiA+IGV4cHJlc3Npb24uIEFuIGV4YW1wbGUgd291bGQgYmUgaGVscGZ1bC4KPiAK PiBEbyB5b3UgbmVlZCBtb3JlIHRoYW4gd2hhdCdzIGluIDguOC40PwoKT2gsIHNvcnJ5LCBJIGNv bmZ1c2VkIHRoZSBsaXRlcmFsICIvIiB3aXRoIEFCTkYgb3BlcmF0b3IgLyBpbgpwYXRoLWtleS1l eHByLiBJIGhhdmUgdG8gY29ycmVjdCBpdCBpbiB0aGUgWUlOIHNjaGVtYS4KIAo+ID4gLSB1bmlx dWUtYXJnICBzaG91bGQgaGF2ZSAiMSpTUCIgaW5zdGVhZCBvZiAiMSpzcCIKPiAKPiBZZXMsIGJ1 dCBpdCBpcyBhY3R1YWxseSB2YWxpZCBBQk5GIChieSBhY2NpZGVudCEpIHNpbmNlIHJ1bGUgbmFt ZXMgYXJlCj4gY2FzZSBpbnNlbnNpdGl2ZS4KPiAKPiBCdXQgSSB0aGluayBpdCBzaG91bGQgYmUg InNlcCIgaW5zdGVhZCBvZiAiMSpzcCIuICAgVGhhdCBhbHNvCj4gYWxsb3dzIG5ld2xpbmVzLCBq dXN0IGxpa2Uga2V5LWFyZy4gICBBbHRlcm5hdGl2ZWx5LCBib3RoIGtleS1hcmcgYW5kCj4gdW5p cXVlLWFyZyBzaG91bGQgdXNlICIxKlNQIiwgYW5kIGlmIHlvdSB3YW50IG5ld2xpbmVzIHlvdSBj YW4gdXNlCj4gc3RyaW5nIGNvbmNhdGVuYXRpb24uCgpJIHZvdGUgZm9yIDEqc2VwLgoKPiAKPiAK PiA+IC0gZGVzY2VuZGFudC1zY2hlbWEtbm9kZWlkIHNob3VsZCBiZSBhbiBhbHRlcm5hdGl2ZT8K PiA+ICAgZGVzY2VuZGFudC1zY2hlbWEtbm9kZWlkCj4gPiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ID0gbm9kZS1pZGVudGlmaWVyIC8KPiA+ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBhYnNvbHV0 ZS1zY2hlbWEtbm9kZWlkCj4gCj4gTm8sIGlmIGl0IGlzIGFic29sdXRlIGl0IGlzIG5vdCBkZXNj ZW5kYW50LiAgZGVzY2VuZGFudC1zY2hlbWEtbm9kZWlkCj4gbWVhbnMgdGhhdCBpdCBpcyBhIHJl bGF0aXZlIHcvbyBsZWFkaW5nIGRvdHMsIGkuZS4gaXQgcmVmZXJlbmNlCj4gc29lbXRoaW5nIGJl bG93IHRoZSBjdXJyZW50IHBvaW50LgoKVGhlIGRlc2NlbmRhbnQtc2NoZW1hLW5vZGVpZCBub3cg ZG9lc24ndCBhbGxvdyBhIHNpbmdsZSBub2RlLWlkZW50aWZpZXIsCml0IG11c3QgYmUgYXQgbGVh c3Qgbm9kZS1pZGVudGlmaWVyICIvIiBub2RlLWlkZW50aWZpZXIuIFNvIHRoZSBydWxlCnNob3Vs ZCBwcm9iYWJseSBiZQoKZGVzY2VuZGFudC1zY2hlbWEtbm9kZWlkCiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgPSBub2RlLWlkZW50aWZpZXIKICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIFthYnNvbHV0 ZS1zY2hlbWEtbm9kZWlkXQoKTGFkYQoKLS0gCkxhZGlzbGF2IExob3RrYSwgQ0VTTkVUClBHUCBL ZXkgSUQ6IEU3NEU4QzBDCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fXwpZQU5HIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdApZQU5HQGlldGYub3JnCmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmlldGYu b3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8veWFuZwo=